08/03/2020 at 1:26 pm #16424ashaw953Participant
This is kind of exciting, so I thought I’d share.
After Jeff’s session on Saturday, I decided to try the techniques he discussed on one of my favorite old pop songs, By The Time I Get To Phoenix. I had learned recently it in standard tuning, so I could sing it, and I remember thinking at the time that the chords might be do-able in taro patch.
I got the chords from an old songbook I had. The sheet music was written out in the key of Eb, but by dropping it a half step to D, the chords were all ones that I could find in taro patch (I had done the same transposition to play it in standard tuning). Here’s the pattern I used. I am sure that this could be varied somewhat, but it works. Each line below corresponds to a line in the verse. There’s no chorus in this song, and the chord changes are really interesting.
Em / Em / Dmaj7 / Dmaj7 /
Em / Em / Dmaj7 / Dmaj7 /
Gmaj7 / A9 / F#m7 / F#m7 /
Em7 / Em7 / C / A /
The last time through, the final line of chords is replaced by
Em7 / Em7 / Dmaj7 / Gmaj7 /
Em7 / F# / B / A / repeat B and A to fade
Anyways, I spent a couple hours finding all the chords, and then I started looking for the melody notes in those chords, or adjacent. For the most part, I could find everything on the first or second string. When I was done, it actually sounded pretty cool! I’ve practiced it a bit, but it’s still kind of rough. Here’s a Youtube of what I’ve got so far:
Though this is not finished, it was very satisfying to take Jeff’s method and apply it to this old song that I love so much. I feel like this is something that I can turn into a real arrangement with some additional work. And I thought it was worth sharing. Let me know what you think!
Andy08/03/2020 at 3:21 pm #16426jnewlanderParticipant
Awesome08/03/2020 at 3:43 pm #16427Tony MendesParticipant
Sounds good Andy. Nice job08/03/2020 at 8:06 pm #16428JeffKeymaster
Great job finding those beautiful harmonies and chords in Taro Patch tuning in the key of D. I see you were following a chord chart or sheet music which can be very helpful when navigating through a new progression. You were able to find the melody notes and some really nice inversions of chords that have the melody notes on top. This is excellent!
Thank you for working on this and for sharing it.
Jeff08/03/2020 at 10:22 pm #16429JPHappoParticipant
It sounds good, you can use this in standard tuning too. Unfortunately I followed the lesson from archive, so I don’t have the sheets you got. It’s big work to play those arpeggio chords like a bass player…08/04/2020 at 8:10 am #16431ashaw953Participant
Thanks to everyone for their kind words.
Jeff, one thing I noticed when I worked on this song was that this chord shape was very useful:
x x x 4 5 5
In notes: B E G
The cool thing is that it can be seen as one of several chords. In 5th position, as shown above, it can be a G6, an Em, or even a Cmaj7. In this arrangement I used it as an Em (in fifth position) and as a Dmaj7 (in seventh position).
I think this would be an interesting topic to discuss on one of your Saturday sessions — how chords, particularly inversions that use only 3 or 4 notes, can be seen as one of several different chords depending on the context, or on what you happen to need at a particular time. You’ve mentioned this in passing at times but it might be worth more discussion.
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